A Sunni Responds to a Christian (part 1)


(I’ve been having a “discussion” with apparently an African Christian convert about Islam and Christianity. I felt that this might be helpful for some people in dealing with these types. I intentionally chose, unlike some of the other people on the page, not to get dragged into debating over the meanings of various Biblical passages. It’s enough to stay focused on the rational proofs—primarily driving home the point that something which is originated could not become beginningless).


Both a Muslim and a Christian will say that God is superior to everything and not inferior to anything. Clearly the one that is inferior is not God and does not deserve to be worshiped. Muslims say that God is One, Eternal (Beginningless), ABSOLUTELY Incomparable and ABSOLUTELY Free-of-Need. The Creator has power over all of the creations.

The Christians claim that the Creator is three—some parts of which are inferior to other parts. The Christians claim that the Eternal Creator (the One, Who by definition is Beginningless and not subject to development) started to have a beginning—and likewise, claim that the originated became beginningless. The so-called Trinity is also problematic is that the three beings that alleged comprise it would have either be dependent upon each other or independent of each other. If they are dependent upon each other, then they would all be weak and not Free-of-Need.

If these three beings are independent of each other, then they could will whatever they “choose,” and it would necessarily be. However, we (or the Christians) would run into the rule of non-contradiction: “contradictory statements cannot both be true in the same sense at the same time.” If there were three beings with Absolute Wills, then they could will matters contrary to one another (such as, the self-same sun rising, and setting, and being at high noon simultaneously in the same location). Natural intelligence tells us that such an event could never occur under any circumstances. This means that it is not possible for all three of the entities of the (supposed) Trinity to have Absolute Will. This would logically mean that at least two of them are relatively imperfect and not God. (In reality, given what the Christians attribute to all three entities of the Trinity, none of them could be God.)

The Christians claim that the Creator and the created are not distinct from each other. But rather the Creator is an outright human being—with other (alleged) parts having anthropomorphic characteristics.  The Christians claim that God is a body. Bodies, by their very nature, are dependent upon space. Before there was space (or any other creation), there was a Creator. After creating space, the Creator did not transform and materialize into an object (or spirit) and become dependent upon space.

A contradiction must necessarily be regarded as false. One cannot say “A is bigger than B…” and then say that “B is bigger than A” (at the same time and in the same regard). Claiming (rightfully) that the Creator is Free-of-Need and at the same time claiming that God is IN NEED (such as, being a body occupying space) is a contradiction and is rejected. And any doctrine which is based on contradictions must be regarded as falsehood and dismissed.

The belief that God is dependent upon creations is clearly inferior to the belief of the Muslims that God is Free-of-Need. The one who has an inferior belief about God cannot have the proper belief in God. The Christian doctrine espouses a belief in God that is inferior to the Muslim belief in God; hence, we cannot deem the Christian doctrine to be true.

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